If you haven't seen this video yet, check it out: Ubuntu for tablets.
Posted on 2013-02-19, 32 comments, 222 +1's, imported from Google+/Chainfire

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I wasn't that excited about Ubuntu for phones, but if you look at this promo -  just take a few seconds and imagine the possibilities.

Could it really be that some day soon there will be tablet OS that will actually let us do what we want to do with it ? That we can finally use a tablet the way we actually want, instead of what some nameless face at Google / Apple / Microsoft decided we should want.

I'm probably setting myself up for a major disappointment - as it certainly sounds too good to be true - but this could be what I've been waiting for all along. Only twice have I been this excited about an upcoming release in the mobile space, those being the release of the HTC TyTN II, and the release of the Samsung Galaxy S2. And that's saying something !

I will certainly be trying this on my Nexus 10 as soon as possible.

Joe Philipps commented on 2013-02-19 at 22:18:

Yeah, like maybe we can have a proper DM, WM, DE, things like sudo built for ARM instead of the...well, interesting... su/apk mess we have now.  I would have imagined it would have been DSL or Puppy which would have wandered into tabletspace first, but I'll takes what I can gets.

Olav Alexander Mjelde commented on 2013-02-19 at 22:26:

I think android or chrome os will be the shiz. Needs more, but multiuser android 4, 2 is a big step

Mike Adams commented on 2013-02-19 at 22:29:

+Chainfire You're not alone. This will go on my Nexus 10 the very second it's available. We can be disappointed together.

Thomas Larsen commented on 2013-02-19 at 22:35:

I don't see how Android/Windows(excluding RT) doesn't fill that criteria already.

It's not really a lack of freedom holding Android back from running stuff normal desktop operating systems does, only the underlying framework preventing it from working out of the box with all software.

It's definitely cool to see vendors like Canonical using the openess of the Nexus hardware to try and compete in the mobile space though.

Mike Adams commented on 2013-02-19 at 22:36:

WTB POGO Dock w/ USB & HDMI for my Nexus 10.. 

Fuyuhiko Date commented on 2013-02-19 at 23:03:

You know, always when i See Ubuntu for Android or Tablet there is the on and only question, and I still didn't found an answere.

Can i still use the Android store / all my apks on my Ubuntu Tablet / Smartphone?

denis sorn commented on 2013-02-19 at 23:14:

+Fuyuhiko Date While you are using the ubuntu, you can't. 

Fuyuhiko Date commented on 2013-02-19 at 23:29:

And thats the point.... I hoping that i can someday use the Best of both... But thanks for the answere ^^

zé belchior commented on 2013-02-19 at 23:49:

They have my attention...

Jarek W commented on 2013-02-20 at 00:17:

If Ubuntu will be successful then it's just a matter of time how we will get gnome touch ui and KDE plasma as well. This is huge step forward and I hope it will be very successful. Linux finally have opportunity to take over mobile and PC world. I hope that exactly the same thing will happen as we have now. I mean we can install Linux on hardware and we have a freedom to change it and customise completely .

Franklin Irelan commented on 2013-02-20 at 00:24:

im interested. interesting though that it is thanks to googles pushing there nexus oems to open source there coponent drivers and code i love open source

Sinan Çetinkaya commented on 2013-02-20 at 00:43:

I'm still wondering that how will they deal with closed source drivers? such as GPU, MHL, sound drivers etc?

Jarek W commented on 2013-02-20 at 00:46:

same way as they deal with it for over 20 years :) write they own or use closed source :), btw every android device is on the same licence which means ubuntu will have drivers etc, drivers dont need to be open to operate.

songtao mu commented on 2013-02-20 at 01:41:


Mike N commented on 2013-02-20 at 01:41:

My only concern about all this is that I don't like the direction Shuttleworth is taking Ubuntu - I HATE the Unity interface with a passion which is why I switched to Mint shortly after.  Given the common roots of the two though, once this is available it shouldn't too big a leap for other distro's to do the same.  Now Mint on a Nexus 10 would be heaven for me.

Jordan Pitts commented on 2013-02-20 at 01:51:

+Sinan Çetinkaya looks like it's going to use the same kernel and drivers as Android 4.0+.

+Mike Notmike I don't understand this hatred so many people seem to have for Unity. I mean, I understand that it had its fair share of teething troubles, and that it's not as customizable as Gnome was, but it's now an entirely usable interface.

And everyone is also directing that same blind hatred at the Unity phone and tablet interfaces, even though there's almost no similarities between them and the desktop interface apart from the sidebar dock and the colors.

Jason Mossbarger commented on 2013-02-20 at 02:51:

I just might have to try this on my nexus 7

Mike N commented on 2013-02-20 at 03:27:

+Jordan Pitts Mine isn't a blind hatred, it just didn't work out for me.  I tried it for almost a month before giving up in total frustration.  It wasn't bugs, I just found it either got in the way of me doing tasks that were previously simple, wasn't intuitive and just annoyed the hell out of me.  It is also going far too mac-esque, - don't get me started on my experiences with those things.  

If I wanted a "controlled, annoying, non-customisable" experience, I wouldn't have deleted Windows all those years ago... or I'd have bought a Mac (shudder). For me Unity is not "now an entirely usable interface", it's a controlled mess and as for the Amazon tie-in, that's just plain in-your-face commercialism.

The simple fact is that Linux Mint works for me and Unity and Gnome 3 (i.e. Ubuntu) don't.  The numbers suggest that I'm not at all alone in this.  If Unity works for you, that's great, just don't expect your likes/dislikes to work for all - Linux is about choice.

+Ronald Ammann "It perfectly makes sense for a consistent experience across all kind of devices"  Have you tried a Surface RT device?  It's a hideous mess, neither tablet nor PC, just some confused mess in the middle.  My current client has some and has put off any development on them until the Intel devices come along and they can be considered as keyboardless PCs - RT is going to be another Windows Me/Vista.

Mike Adams commented on 2013-02-20 at 04:12:

+Nick Darko sure

Mike N commented on 2013-02-20 at 04:13:

+Ronald Ammann You've missed my point.  Your said "It perfectly makes sense for a consistent experience across all kind of devices." which is precisely what MS are trying to do with W8, Surface and Phone and it is an absolute disaster - personal experience here.  

The only one that it sort of works on is the phone, because it's a totally touch device with a touch interface.  I believe that Unity will have the same issues if it tries to be both touch and non-touch (phone/tablet vs. PC).  The other issue I have with Unity is that it is Canonical who are now driving it, not the community and not the developers.  It's their way or the highway... well I chose the highway thanks.

redone karim commented on 2013-02-20 at 04:23:

Its good but we r habited to use anroid. What would b d result? Is still foggy.

Mike N commented on 2013-02-20 at 05:15:

+Ronald Ammann Unity may be different but the concept "consistent experience across all kind of devices" is not, that is the point.  I don't believe that Unity or any other interface can deliver that across both touch and non-touch.  Either way I dislike the Unity interface irrespective of the hardware so won't be using it.

What's wrong with Canonical driving it?  What's wrong is the commercial impetus which resulted in the Amazon tie-in.  I, for one, do not like or expect to be fed adverts when I'm doing an app search in the software centre or looking for files on my own machine.

If you're cool with that sort of cr*p, that's fine by me, but I find it intrusive and distracting so I dropped Ubuntu for a cleaner more efficient (IMO) interface and distro. - Mint across nine computers (including for the primary age kids) - all is good in my Mint world.  Linux is about choice, I chose Mint.  Nuf sed.

Giuliano Peretti commented on 2013-02-20 at 07:02:

Nexus 10 + Ubuntu? Yeah! Consider already bought!

Marius Dalacu commented on 2013-02-20 at 07:08:

I have a question, can you use 2 tablet layout apps in the same time or only a tablet with a phone app?

And i also see no G+ sharing?

I hope i am mistaken.

Chainfire commented on 2013-02-20 at 07:27:

+Mike Notmike Same here, I recently dropped Ubuntu for Mint (Cinnamon) as well. Though I must admit I run it (Mint) as well as OS X in a VM on top of Windows 7 (yeah), and which I'm using wholly depends on what I'm doing. Some days I spend only in W7, others I spend completely in Mint or OS X.

I am certainly not a fan of Unity (on the desktop) but let's give it a chance on phone and tablet. The paradigm is different, maybe it fits this time.

Davide Franco commented on 2013-02-20 at 09:11:

Canonical is going to be the new Microsoft.

From Canonical I'd prefer to develope the professional interface for ubuntu instead of doing those OS for mobility sistem.

Joan Rossello commented on 2013-02-20 at 09:16:

I like it

Christopher Mortimer commented on 2013-02-20 at 09:31:

don't like the UI. more geometric please

Sirus Laia commented on 2013-02-20 at 11:17:

+Chainfire I totally share your excitement. As an Ubuntu desktop user for the past 10 years I really like to see the integration of PC, tablet and phone. Let see whether Canonical can finally deliver what they promise. 

Moe Shah Azman commented on 2013-02-20 at 11:31:

When it's released the other shoe will drop and we'll all be disappointed somehow. I can't wait for the collective moaning :D

Kay Fash commented on 2013-02-20 at 11:37:

My advice to canonical: Patent what you can OR a major competitor will patent and then sue you.

Jarek W commented on 2013-02-20 at 19:34:

they cannot sue cannonical :) they are non profit company :P they only charge for service but not for a product.

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