SuperSU OTA survival and KitKat OTAs
Posted on 2013-11-14, 41 comments, 193 +1's, imported from Google+/Chainfire

NOTICE: This content was originally posted to Google+, then imported here. Some formatting may be lost, links may be dead, and images may be missing.

This applies to SuperSU v1.69 and older.

There appears to be a problem with OTA survival mode and the KitKat OTAs for the Nexus devices. Having OTA survival enabled will make the OTA update fail.

You should disable OTA survial in SuperSU settings before flashing the OTA, and re-root after the OTA is complete.

That issue will probably be solved for the next SuperSU update (v1.7x), but I know a lot of you aren't waiting around for that, so ... :)

Muhammad Ridhwan FILLCO commented on 2013-11-14 at 01:30:


I'm First :D

Shawn Markins commented on 2013-11-14 at 01:42:

chuckling not sure if it was caused by this, but after trying to do the update with survival enabled, the nexus 7(2013) was recovery looped.. Had to do a complete wipe of the device. Like I said... Not sure this caused all that, but just a PSA. ?

Jonathan Anderson commented on 2013-11-14 at 01:42:

I have the free version so the survival mode is disabled right? I can't select the option.

Jim DeArras commented on 2013-11-14 at 01:45:

I reloaded 4.3 then updated, I had this issue, I think.

TeRry P. commented on 2013-11-14 at 01:47:

Thanks for the head up

Jonathan Anderson commented on 2013-11-14 at 02:02:

OK OK I'll pay for it lol... Already paid for mobile Odin on my s2 just haven't gotten around to super su... Thanks for all your work...

erick tindige commented on 2013-11-14 at 02:21:

aye.. :)

Joe Philipps commented on 2013-11-14 at 02:31:

Is this why you remarked previously that there will likely be an update next week?

Chris S commented on 2013-11-14 at 02:41:

First, They have to release the 4.4 OTA for the nexus 4...

Jimmy Poteat commented on 2013-11-14 at 05:50:

On N7 2012 I unrooted flashed the zip of the OTA in cwm recovery, then immediately flashed the SuperSU 1.6.9 zip.

But it's not taking. I've tried redownloading and flashing the SU zip several times. No luck.

Any ideas? I'm unlocked boot loader on 4.4 with CWM recovery.

Olivier Guéry commented on 2013-11-14 at 05:59:

+Jonathan Anderson same here : I can't unselect this option, it's already off. But flash failed on My nexus 7 2012

Giorgio Aresu commented on 2013-11-14 at 07:33:

I've the free version and when cwm asked if I wanted to reapply supersu I said yes. Now I'm still rooted without reflashing anything else

Thomas Kempkes commented on 2013-11-14 at 07:41:

First let me thank you for your great work chainfire! Up to now everything worked really fine for me!

But I updated my Nexus 7 2013 yesterday and lost root.

Before doing the update I completely disabled (removed?) SuperSU from its settings dialog, then rebooted into recovery(TWRP, flashed the kitkat update with wipe caches enabled and directly after that flashed the 1.69 SuperSU ZIP (a procedure which worked fine for the 4.3 update for me).

I have 4.4 on my Nexus 7 now which works fine, but I lost root completely, I tried to reflash the zip file several times, installed SuperSU from the Play Store too, but it now just shows the app-icon in the installed-apps list, but when I try to start it my Nexus tells me "App is not installed".

I'm really stuck here, anything I can still try to regain root access?

BYe Thomas

Hoder Jensen commented on 2013-11-14 at 08:41:

Thanks for the confirmation, glad to see it wasn't me who did something wrong :)

Removing daemonsu and .su eg. via adb shell, if stuck in boot loop, will make it possible to run the ota update zip again.

Salvatore Calaciura commented on 2013-11-14 at 12:07:

Possibility  to root stock kitkat 4.4 on N7 wifi 2012? :/

Giorgio Aresu commented on 2013-11-14 at 12:09:

+Salvatore Calaciura I didn't lose root updating with ota zip. Just told cwm to reflash supersu to not lose root

Salvatore Calaciura commented on 2013-11-14 at 12:23:

I had the ota notification ( I made an unroot 2 weeks ago) to avoid any problems during update at 4.4. Now I have only the unlock bootloader. Nothing else.

Giorgio Aresu commented on 2013-11-14 at 12:25:

Then flash recovery and root again... I apply ota even if rooted, it's not the first time, never had problems.. BTW usually I apply zip found on internet instead of waiting days or weeks for the update to come up on device by itself

Salvatore Calaciura commented on 2013-11-14 at 12:35:

Giorgio, are you italian? xD 

I'm little scared because I don't know if it's possible do the same process with the old factory image of 4.3 (I use nexus root toolkit)

Giorgio Aresu commented on 2013-11-14 at 13:44:

Yep XD How did you guess? ;) applying ota on stock rooted? Yes if you didn't remove stock apps

Javi carchenilla commented on 2013-11-14 at 14:01:

Por favor en español. I dont know.

Krishean Draconis commented on 2013-11-14 at 14:05:

I did a full unroot before flashing the ota, and when I tried flashing the supersu zip it didn't show up in the app drawer and I had a hell of a time getting it installed again. I had to install it from the play store after flashing the zip, catch it before it crashed and do a 'integrate with system' to get it to install properly.

Jimmy Poteat commented on 2013-11-14 at 14:58:

+Krishean Draconis can you detail how you did that. I'm stuck where you were.

Krishean Draconis commented on 2013-11-14 at 15:43:

+Jimmy Poteat Here's what I did from the beginning:

1) Download the OTA package and the 1.65 update zip onto my Nexus 7 (2012)

2) Restored all files on the /system partition to their stock versions (I had a custom boot animation and the AOSP Browser installed.)

3) Go into SuperSU and hit ''Full unroot."

4) Boot into custom recovery (I use CWM, but I guess any custom recovery will work.)

5) Flash OTA package.

6) Flash SuperSU 1.65 zip.

7) Boot up the tablet into its shiny new OS.

8) Install SuperSU from the play store, as it won't show up in the app drawer.

9) Run SuperSU and hit yes to update su (normal method.)

10) Quickly go into settings and hit "install SuperSU to system" before it crashes (if it crashes just try again.)

11) When the tablet reboots (reboot manually if it doesn't) repeat step 10 once.

12) Hope that it works, if it doesn't, run SuperSU, try either reinstall, switch superuser app, or full unroot and start over at step 6.

If you already have the OTA applied, just boot into recovery and start at step 6.

Krishean Draconis commented on 2013-11-14 at 15:51:

Oh, and +Chainfire thank you for all your hard work, and sorry if I sent you too many bug reports in my frustration trying to get it to work.

Freddy Vasquez commented on 2013-11-14 at 20:29:

I trying to update to 4.3 but it will not take it, any advice.

Mark Gillespie commented on 2013-11-14 at 22:36:

Same here, no go on Nexus7 2012.   All other devices rooted fine.

Krishean Draconis commented on 2013-11-14 at 22:45:

+Mark Gillespie Try the walkthrough I posted above, it worked for me on two of my devices.

Jimmy Poteat commented on 2013-11-14 at 23:49:

+Krishean Draconis thanks!

I flashed the 1.69, installed SuperSU through the play store. Because I had 1.69 I wasn't prompted to update, so went to settings and selected install in /system. N7 rebooted. Went to root checker and SuperSU crashed. Back to SuperSU and magically the popup appeared to allow root for root checker.

Not sure the correct process but flashing from recovery, installing from play, and in-app telling it to install to /system fixed it.

Works now!

Mohd Shukri commented on 2013-11-15 at 05:42:

After update to v1.69 ....i have problem with my root..note 2 leak 4.3 mod note 3....apps use root access not working..restore nandroid..use v1.65 again....?

Thomas Kempkes commented on 2013-11-15 at 07:28:

After having problems yesterday, I just flashed 1.69 again, re-installed it from play store before starting it even once and now have it working again!

Shn Naser commented on 2013-11-15 at 11:49:

My OTA hurts.

Chainfire commented on 2013-11-15 at 12:02:
An Xu commented on 2013-11-19 at 14:34:

+Krishean Draconis It works!

shawn p commented on 2013-11-25 at 10:48:


Lewis Corporan commented on 2013-11-28 at 06:39:

I love it

Lewis Corporan commented on 2013-11-28 at 06:44:

The best

Mohd Shukri commented on 2013-11-29 at 00:04:

Thanks in advance..

ali raj commented on 2013-11-30 at 08:10:


Shn Naser commented on 2013-11-30 at 11:17:

My survival died?

David Dropski commented on 2014-01-10 at 14:02:

chainfire 3d fucked up my nexus 10 .. thanks dick

This post is over a month old, commenting has been disabled.